tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3111360555104006558.post856790335137771291..comments2024-01-03T10:58:16.165-06:00Comments on Spite for the Dice Gods: On the VindicatorRaptor1313http://www.blogger.com/profile/16909802419382710809noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3111360555104006558.post-47446203481872091712010-02-05T22:43:08.832-06:002010-02-05T22:43:08.832-06:00I just take 1 tac squad
A glib response, but how d...<i>I just take 1 tac squad</i><br />A glib response, but how does that block 50% of the facing? 5 Marines might occasionally block enough LOS, but not that often. (And no, Shooting through the squad does not matter as vehicles ignore that rule.)Dverninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18098608506710554678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3111360555104006558.post-78691982436918820032010-02-04T18:25:21.368-06:002010-02-04T18:25:21.368-06:00I just take 1 tac squad, break it into combat squa...I just take 1 tac squad, break it into combat squads, and put one on each flank. Insta assault prevention/ 4+ cover save for those AV 11 sides.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09458652173913895113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3111360555104006558.post-64831218815982027282009-12-13T22:16:29.238-06:002009-12-13T22:16:29.238-06:00Excellent write-up. I love the "realistic&qu...Excellent write-up. I love the "realistic" viewpoint you bring as opposed to WAAC spammers we may know :)<br /><br />Any thoughts on Siegewing lists? (ie DA termies + vindies + dreads only)GWvsJohnhttp://www.carydolan.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3111360555104006558.post-41361838842083245852009-12-09T22:29:33.578-06:002009-12-09T22:29:33.578-06:00@Mercer
Not at all. My policy towards linking to ...@Mercer<br />Not at all. My policy towards linking to my stuff is so long as my name's still on it, it's fine. A little ego boost never hurts... ;)<br /><br />@Dverning<br />I think I'll look into the e-mail. Even if it doesn't get a lot of hits, it's a fine source of inspiration.<br /><br />You are correct on the Bt one, though. PotMS in the old-school style (combined with the fact you don't mind so much about BS2...) makes them more dangerous.<br /><br />Still, they just don't do a ton of DAMAGE, espite the Big Fun Gun they have.Raptor1313https://www.blogger.com/profile/16909802419382710809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3111360555104006558.post-73542100551344440662009-12-09T09:10:06.298-06:002009-12-09T09:10:06.298-06:00Yes, I think you should post an e-mail link. I...Yes, I think you should post an e-mail link. I've had mine up for a while and though it's only generated a couple questions, that's still a couple more than I might otherwise have gotten.<br /><br />As to the Vindicator? I think your analysis is exactly right... it's more threat than effect. I love when opponents take them as that means they didn't spend their points on something more effective, such as Predators.<br /><br />There is ONE place I think Vindies still work though: Black Templars. Why? Because their Vindies still have access to Power of the Machine Spirit. So it ignores those Crew Shaken and Crew Stunned results. (There's also the old Smoke Launchers too.) This makes the vehicle impossible to "Shake & Forget" so you can concentrate on their Land Raiders or Rhinos.Dverninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18098608506710554678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3111360555104006558.post-70549213765047087702009-12-09T07:18:28.055-06:002009-12-09T07:18:28.055-06:00Nice article Raptor. Mind if I link this article o...Nice article Raptor. Mind if I link this article on http://imperiusdominatus.blogspot.com ?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15192025704338851715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3111360555104006558.post-21477977996293527792009-12-09T07:08:54.904-06:002009-12-09T07:08:54.904-06:00Honestly, I'm kind of with you on that.
The P...Honestly, I'm kind of with you on that.<br /><br />The Predator gets away with the 13/11/10 because it's got its butt on the back board edge (or close to it) and the enemy will have to do some real work to get AV11 shots on it.<br /><br />The Vindicator's flanks and AV10 don't serve it as it advances, but you can cover the flanks (ish) with other vehicles, and frankly the AV10 rear isn't quiite as bad as it sounds because most anything that can assault you is something you can shoot, first. Thus, with 2-3 Vindis, you can feed them a lot of pie. S10 insta-kills Thunderwolf Cav, and they're the ones I'd worry about, what with the S10 hammer on Sarge. Fiends of Slaanesh, though, have the attacks needed to beat you up and are immune to instant death, but you're not exactly advancing on them most of the time.<br /><br />Anyway, though, that's why I'm a fan of the Space Marine list rather than the Chaos list. In the SM list, they're a strong component, but you still have long-range shooting with the rest of the army. With the Chaos list, though...not so much.Raptor1313https://www.blogger.com/profile/16909802419382710809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3111360555104006558.post-63645837926280446852009-12-09T05:19:16.421-06:002009-12-09T05:19:16.421-06:00The vindicator is a little like the poor mans demo...The vindicator is a little like the poor mans demolisher. Its a lot cheaper, but the combination of a fixed gun and poor side armour mean that its easily circumvented... combine that with a poor range of 24" and their bark bigger than their bite.<br /><br />The demolisher has both true move and fire potential, combined with the rear armour 11, which gives you some security at close range. Throw in a few cheap heavy flamers and you've got a devastating tank that no-one wants to get near with almost the best armour in the game.<br /><br />Put some bodies around it to stave off the meltaguns and its a lynchpin to hang your army off.<br /><br />The Demolisher isn't. That said I've seen them shrug off silly amount of firepower - but I've also seen a bunch of killa kans do the same...suneokunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08085094845127991965noreply@blogger.com